Prof. Tim CONGDON: Mick McGOUGH

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Thursday, 19 May 2011

19-May-2011 - Still the shambles surrounding the spin and lies of UKIP Continue

19-May-2011 - Still the shambles surrounding the spin and lies of UKIP Continue

Clearly leaving Tim Congdon besmirched and demeaned by his associates in this debacle!

Hi,

the complete incompetence of the handling of the leadership and the unprofessional and incompetent management of this challenge which was predicted in some detail BEFORE Marta Andreasen was dishonestly and corruptly put in place as a UKIP MEP (Details CLICK HERE)

The result was this article early on the morning of Thursday 19-May-2011

UKIP STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED LIES DON'T PAY!

The endless use of UKIP affiliates who are proven liars and low lifes who abuse and defame members and supporters of UKIP who seek honesty, integrity, morality, transparency and probity to once more ressurecy UKIP and render it fit for purpose - Leaves them without credible defence when the truth leaks out!!
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Hi,

in the light of the habitual lies of both Skeptyk and also of Mick McGough which have been proven time and again, and in that they are in the habit of abusing any supporter or member of UKIP who dares to hold a different opinion - particularly those with a lengthy track record of seeking transparency and aiming to clean-up the party.

Those who hope to remove filth and liars like themselves from UKIP's employ and leadership claque - Their comments, criticisms and attempts at defence at validation are clearly of no value nor worthy of any respect or cogniscenece.

That those who post as skeptyk are too ashamed to put their name to their lies and the style of their odious behaviour demeans UKIP more than they could ever be considered of value as with those who post as Independent UKIP or the moronic Gothmog (aka William Shaw) - not only cowardly but clearly as with the liar Stuart Parr and Mick McGough who is a placement on the NEC such scum of the earth and liars do UKIP more harm than every they may foolishly consider they aid it.

As with association with the crass, amateur and foul mouthed Annabelle Fuller and her sordid little AthenaPR agency.

The comments of Barbara Booker in response to 'Geoffrey Collier' a loyal and supportive member of UKIP for many years who has been frequently defamed and abused by the scum gathered in ambition around the leadership position in UKIP for his efforts to improve the Party and bring various seemingly clear theives to book where it would seem possibly many £Millions have been stolen, misappropriated or embezzled.

Ms. Bookers comments are, as ever, both reasoned and substantiated:
Geoffrey, to clarify:

When trying to check the authenticity of the Tim Congdon email, I found it did not appear on Michael Heaver's blog as stated by skeptyk in post #1 of this thread.

A google search brought up several references to it having been posted on 12 May, but in each case clicking the link produced: "Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog Michael Heaver's Blog does not exist".

As I didn't then know about the Blogger problem of posts being temporarily deleted (the explanation offered by Richard Allen and skeptyk), I assumed MH had removed the post himself soon after making it, probably as a result of a complaint from TC. Hence my 'sceptical' comment.

I now see from buzz.blogger.com that by 15 May most of the affected posts had been restored, with bloggers advised to republish any that were still missing, so when checking Michael Heaver's blog again I expected to find the elusive Congdon email back in its place.

Not so. MH posted three times on 15 May, twice on 16th, once on 17th and once yesterday, but still no sign of a restored or republished email from Tim Congdon. My original assumption is therefore not only unchanged, but reinforced by further consideration.

One of the google references revealed enough of Michael Heaver's 12 May post to show that he was definitely linking Tim Congdon's comments with what he called "the small isolated group of members who are calling for a leadership challenge". See http://www.britishblogs.co.uk/categories/nigel-farage/

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An interesting email hit my desk this morning which shows us how disagreements in the Party should be conducted. Tim Congdon, the second place UKIP leadership challenger from last year has ruled himself out of joining the small isolated group of members who are calling for a leadership challenge. In his own words:Nigel has many gifts - he is an outstanding speaker and television personality. He has been elected, by a large majority, for four years. He must be supported by all party members. Should he remain leader indefinitely? Well, that is for the party to decide. At this stage I intend to throw my hat in the ring again in 2014, as I believe the party needs its centre of gravity to be in this country, not in Brussels or Strasbourg. You may forward...

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Skeptyk continues the email in post #1.

It appears from the break in the text and the repetition of "forward this to whomever you please" that it is actually quotes from two separate emails, probably written just after Nigel Farage won the leadership election last November.

There is no proof whatsoever that TC wrote them in connection with any recent leadership issue, and it's my belief that someone has cobbled extracts together and recirculated them in a pretence of current support for Farage which may not exist.

If this conclusion is incorrect, Michael Heaver should publish the email in its entirety, with date, title and name of recipient so that we can see it in context and check its authenticity.

The balance of the CLAIMED comment of Tim Congdon, as claimed by Michael Heavers and selectively quoted, as Barbara Booker states, was posted on this blog. CLICK HERE

Since Skeptyk's posting was subsequent to the removal from Michael Heavers' blog it is probable one of the dishonest creatures, posting as the cowardly proven liar Skeptyk, obtained the copy as posted by them on Anthony Butcher's UKIP controlled blog from the posting on this blog by me at CLICK HERE.

For the original of the article above CLICK HERE

Finally it would seem the dishonesty of the spin regarding Tim CONGDON's letter was exposed - UKIP's very crass and very amateur Press & Spin department finally having been embarrassed into publishing BOTH re-statements of Tim Congdon's honourable statement after the corrupt and dishonest leadership election made in support of the newly placed leader.

The TWO letters are claimed to be as follows:

I wonder in view of the fact that this first 'e'mail is claimed to have been sent on 11-May-2011 when it was actually sent by Tim Congdon and is the date genuine as it is seemingly a Forward of an early 'e'Mail with no provenance of source and as the poster has a proven track record for lies, dishonesty, corruption and bringing UKIP into disrepute I would doubt Tim Congdon would wish his name to be associated with such a low life!

Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:33 PM
Subject: Fw:

REDACTED,

You ask me to support Nigel, following Marta's criticism yesterday. This is what I sent to David Platt yesterday. Yes, the party must support its leader. As I have always said, Nigel Farage has great gifts which are invaluable to the UK Independence Party.

But I will continue to argue that the centre of gravity of UKIP must be in the UK, not in Brussels or Strasbourg. Of course I support Nigel as leader, as we all must do.

All the same, I am not going to retract what I said in the leadership campaign last autumn. fought the leadership election in order to oppose (what I believe to be) the undue concentration of effort on the European Parliament, including the pan-European party proposal. Let us be clear. Both the European Parliament and a pan-European party are structures intended to serve and promote European integration. I am not just opposed to EU integration; I want us out of the EU altogether, as soon as possible - unilaterally, unconditionally, if necessary. I loathe and deplore the betrayal of my country.

So I worry about our MEPs, and their involvement in the European Parliament and the apparent enthusiasm of some of them for such monstrosities as "the pan-European party".

Please, please, forward this to whomever you please. I am again copying this to David Platt, anyway.

rgds,

Tim

I have also redacted the name of the supposed recipient as this too - considering the dishonest track record of the poster is clearly also unreliable and we note again it shows no sign of source or title and thus clearly may be ages old and recycled.

It is unfortunate that UKIP leadership team has so very few individuals of any gravitas or merit that it is hard for them to comment on anything with overly much chance of their being believed!

Sent: Tuesday, 10 May, 2011 19:36:57
Subject: Re:

REDACTED,

Nigel has many gifts - he is an outstanding speaker and television personality. He has been elected, by a large majority, for four years. He must be supported by all party members.

Should he remain leader indefinitely? Well, that is for the party to decide. At this stage I intend to throw my hat in the ring again in 2014, as I believe the party needs its centre of gravity to be in this country, not in Brussels or Strasbourg. - & there is so much work to do here in our own country. Somebody must push this line.

You may forward this to whomever you please

rgds,

Tim

UKIP would do well when it eventually sets about cleaning-up the party with a view to making it fit for purpose and trustworthy to remember the admonishment of Sir Walter Scott in his poem of 1808 'Marmion' where in he wrote of the Battle of Flodden Field in 1513.

Wherein he stated:

'Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive'

The clear implication being that lies beget lies and there is no value in accepting facts from proven liars - In this case Mick McGough - serial liar and abuser of any member who dares to try to Clean-up UKIP or discuss any view he does not endorse on behalf of his puppet masters.

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Monday, 25 October 2010

Mike NATTRASS Offers Oblique SUPPORT - 25-Oct-2010

Mike NATTRASS Offers Oblique SUPPORT - 25-Oct-2010!

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UKIP LEADER FARAGE CAN & WILL IGNORE THE NATTRASS LETTER!

A KNOCK OUT BLOW - NOT!

REVENGE IS A DISH BEST SERVED COLD BUT NOT WET & TOO LATE!

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Hi,

After many years of propping up Nigel Farage and covering for him - including much saber rattling against this blog with threats muttered of taking me to Court, Bankrupting me and bad mouthing me over many years with not a shred of evidence of any validity this little man finally has a Damascene conversion.

Well it was Winston Spencer Churchill, was it not, who said:

'Get on
Get honest
Get honour'.

I do incline to think that Mike Nattrass' transition from Nigel's poodle bitch to Rottweiler is completely unconvincing.
Do remember it was Mike Nattrass who had support for Tom Wise's criminality on his web site long after the Courts had sentenced Wise (A liar, A cheat, A fraud, A Grubby little crook who betrayed his Country for personal gain) to 2 years in Jail.
May we remind readers how Nattrass' foul mouthed and abusive attacks on Petrina Holdsworth to support Farage were deliberately leaked to remove her as Chairman and perpetuate the obfusscation of UKIP accounts which he admits Farage was fiddling for his own gain!
Mike Nattrass would seem to have served himself for as long as he could and much as I admire his denunciation in the letter below - Is he really trying to tell us that in all those years of working closely with Nigel Farage the best he could do was compile a letter without a single solitary fact that he had not read on this blog over several years - is Nattrass obliquely complimenting us by claiming this blog had ALL the facts, surely not!

Not one word in this letter is new, furthermore not one word in this letter is of consequence as although Nattrass stepped down from the Racist, anti Jewish, anti homosexual pro EU membership EFD Party of which he was happy to be a member until it was expedient for him to leave but a few weeks ago - this begs the question as to why he remained in support of Farage as every fact he puts forward is long since known and published!
Perhaps it is a little harsh of me, minded that he did at least eventually seek to salve his conscience, but perhaps Nattrass would care to explain himself:
Why did he collude in the corruption for so long?
Why does he claim to have a legal action against the Sunday Times when it is clear he has no case?
Why when he has known this for so long did he choose to release his excoriating attack in a leadership election that has dragged on for months on October the 25th. when ALL voting must be in the hands of UKIP for fiddling BY the 27th.?

Dear All,

It may be too late but after all these years I can no longer stay silent.

In the previous Leadership Election I, together with all candidates EXCEPT LORD PEARSON were rubbished by Nigel Farage on TV and elsewhere. This ensured the election of Nigel's puppet Lord Pearson and allowed Nigel to continue to be the face of the party. That is Nigel's view of the election rules and I think it is only fair and high time that his methods were exposed, USING HIS OWN RULES.

Nigel already Leads the parliamentary Group and when he is also elected Leader this will amount to total control. Increasingly I am hearing the word "Spiv" used to describe him, from people who are not members but see his image. I am concerned that the UKIP party brand will be tarnished, even holed below the water line, by his monopoly of power.

Whilst Nigel is a very good speaker, he is also a control freak. He grabs all UKIP publicity to the detriment of any other UKIP spokesperson or MEP. He employs assistants with the MEP's budgets without allowing those MEPs any say. This, despite the fact that UKIP MEPs demanded a chance to interview those who were being employed with their money. Nigel agreed, then totally ignored that promise. Consequently he has his own "group funded" team around him and all "hiring" takes place via his close friend Godfrey Bloom MEP (this person is said to be banned by 4 hotels for urinating in the corridors)

Nigel's lack of experience in good staff management and his refusal to allow MEP consultation is complimented by the morals of an Alley Cat (and I will not go there). I have always said that this does not matter, because so long as we are all in the trench together with guns pointing at the enemy all are welcome. But he shot Nikki Sinclaire in the back when she became an MEP, for no Party reason, while she was giving all the effort she could give. She was expelled as a UKIP MEP for pointing out the Group facts. He does not like truth or competition.

I have put a lot of money, time and energy into promoting UKIP in the West Midlands and I watched it wrecked at the General Election by Nigel's chosen people (Lords Pearson and Monckton) who appeared from nowhere and failed to understand our basic strategy or even comprehend from where our votes are derived. Worse, Nikki, who has vast energy at election time, was stopped from being a UKIP MEP by Nigel and has not been given a chance to defend herself or to state her case (legal matters are pending). She and I were told by Lord Pearson not to get involved in the election and not to fund the campaign. In fact you will see that we both made considerable financial contributions but our campaign was deeply damaged. Also the subsequent enquiry into the campaign, requested by the WM candidates, was "dealt with" by Monckton (who thought I was behind it) and because of this we have had resignations from very keen activists.

All this West Midlands destruction because Nigel hates Nikki and wants to rubbish me!! Do you know how much money Nigel has contributed to this party...next to nothing.

I found allegations of fraud were brought against me when I stood for Leadership. These were in the Sunday Times. They melted away afterwards and had no foundation in truth, but they did the job intended.(My legal case against the Times is pending) Nigel has had a number of very real cases against him.. funny how that word does not get out.

My first major annoyance with Nigel's manipulations stem from the time when I was first elected in 2004 and all UKIP MEPs had a meeting to agree three very basic points. One was that we could not employ wives (other Parties did) and this was agreed. In fact my wife comes to each Parliament and does not get paid (not even travel expenses) and I said that she wanted to contribute any proper payment to the Party, but no, rules were rules and she could be paid nothing. It was then later exposed that Nigel's wife was being secretly paid out of his budget, breaking this rule. He did not seek any permission (to change his own rule) from the MEPs. He was simply "caught out" with both hands in the till. I fear that the whole Parliamentary Group in the EU is run for Nigel's financial and public image. I left that ugly group.

Nigel has derailed every leader since the very first, except peacemaker Jeffery Titford (under whom I was Party Chairman). He is therefore hated by them all (except JT). plus never to be leader Kilroy Silk who must feel that Nigel gave him a wrong prospectus.

I expect that Nigel will be elected leader as no one else is effectively allowed to stand without a spin campaign against them. I can see less MEPs in the UKIP squad when he does win.

There is a false attack on Tim Congdon from Boggers 4 UKIP, this must mean he is a real threat! Good.

Mike

MIKE NATTRASS MEP

Hardly revelatory I think you will agree!
How unfortunate that Nattrass' conscience caught up with him too late to be of any consequence.
Don't forget Mike Nattrass was well aware of the corruption and colluded in the suppression of the Returning Officer's exposee CLICK HERE Nattrass took absolutely no action for honesty or integrity until he had ensured his comments were utterly inconsequential - where was his integrity when his Regional Organiser/Fireplace salesman raided Nikki Sinclaire's office on the instructions of that duplicitous creep Christopher Gill (failed Tory) - Where was Nattrass' integrity when he wrote an eMail attacking John West in support of UKIP corruption?
No I am not impressed with Nattrass' contrived re-serving of stale news - surely a letter of apology would have been more apposite and as for the amount of 'Pot Kettle' in his letter it is quite staggering - I note he does not wish to visit the issue of morality!
BUT it does show just what low lifes UKIP has as MEPs and as a leadership claque as ALL collude in the corruption for their own personal gain.
The ONLY visible leaders on the UKIP horizon are Nikki Sinclaire (who Nattrass has followed) and Tim Congdon who many will remember resigned from UKIP as he was unwilling to be associated with the spiv Farage and only returned when there was the very clear opportunity of unseating Farage with a view to CLEANING UP the ordure that is UKIP to make it electable - a status that Farage has totally failed to achieve as the party earns a mere 3.1% of the confidence of the electorate.
UKIP sees itself best led by an oik and to be sure one only needs to deal with UKIP MEPs, staff, supporters like Annabelle Fuller, Mick McTrough, Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher, Robing Collett, Andrew Smith, Stuart Gulleford, Stuart Agnew, David Bannerman, Stuart Parr, Peter Reeve, Lisa Duff, Jonathan Arnott, Malcolm Wood, Paul Nuttall, and the rest of the self serving trash gathered around Farage, to realise just how clearly they are most accurately reflected by an oik with childish stunts and idiotic posturings - at least he will not stand out from the crowd!
You will note that even the likes of Alan Wood were happy to remain silent until their personal ambitions were thwarted - Look at >They QUIT UKIP - Mainly In Disgust< in the Right SideBar and consider the huge number of people who have consciously distanced themselves from The Farage Fan Club.

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