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Thursday, 19 May 2011

19-May-2011 - Still the shambles surrounding the spin and lies of UKIP Continue

19-May-2011 - Still the shambles surrounding the spin and lies of UKIP Continue

Clearly leaving Tim Congdon besmirched and demeaned by his associates in this debacle!


the complete incompetence of the handling of the leadership and the unprofessional and incompetent management of this challenge which was predicted in some detail BEFORE Marta Andreasen was dishonestly and corruptly put in place as a UKIP MEP (Details CLICK HERE)

The result was this article early on the morning of Thursday 19-May-2011

The endless use of UKIP affiliates who are proven liars and low lifes who abuse and defame members and supporters of UKIP who seek honesty, integrity, morality, transparency and probity to once more ressurecy UKIP and render it fit for purpose - Leaves them without credible defence when the truth leaks out!!

in the light of the habitual lies of both Skeptyk and also of Mick McGough which have been proven time and again, and in that they are in the habit of abusing any supporter or member of UKIP who dares to hold a different opinion - particularly those with a lengthy track record of seeking transparency and aiming to clean-up the party.

Those who hope to remove filth and liars like themselves from UKIP's employ and leadership claque - Their comments, criticisms and attempts at defence at validation are clearly of no value nor worthy of any respect or cogniscenece.

That those who post as skeptyk are too ashamed to put their name to their lies and the style of their odious behaviour demeans UKIP more than they could ever be considered of value as with those who post as Independent UKIP or the moronic Gothmog (aka William Shaw) - not only cowardly but clearly as with the liar Stuart Parr and Mick McGough who is a placement on the NEC such scum of the earth and liars do UKIP more harm than every they may foolishly consider they aid it.

As with association with the crass, amateur and foul mouthed Annabelle Fuller and her sordid little AthenaPR agency.

The comments of Barbara Booker in response to 'Geoffrey Collier' a loyal and supportive member of UKIP for many years who has been frequently defamed and abused by the scum gathered in ambition around the leadership position in UKIP for his efforts to improve the Party and bring various seemingly clear theives to book where it would seem possibly many £Millions have been stolen, misappropriated or embezzled.

Ms. Bookers comments are, as ever, both reasoned and substantiated:
Geoffrey, to clarify:
When trying to check the authenticity of the Tim Congdon email, I found it did not appear on Michael Heaver's blog as stated by skeptyk in post #1 of this thread. 

A google search brought up several references to it having been posted on 12 May, but in each case clicking the link produced: "Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog Michael Heaver's Blog does not exist". 

As I didn't then know about the Blogger problem of posts being temporarily deleted (the explanation offered by Richard Allen and skeptyk), I assumed MH had removed the post himself soon after making it, probably as a result of a complaint from TC. Hence my 'sceptical' comment.

I now see from that by 15 May most of the affected posts had been restored, with bloggers advised to republish any that were still missing, so when checking Michael Heaver's blog again I expected to find the elusive Congdon email back in its place. 

Not so. MH posted three times on 15 May, twice on 16th, once on 17th and once yesterday, but still no sign of a restored or republished email from Tim Congdon. My original assumption is therefore not only unchanged, but reinforced by further consideration.

One of the google references revealed enough of Michael Heaver's 12 May post to show that he was definitely linking Tim Congdon's comments with what he called "the small isolated group of members who are calling for a leadership challenge". See


An interesting email hit my desk this morning which shows us how disagreements in the Party should be conducted. Tim Congdon, the second place UKIP leadership challenger from last year has ruled himself out of joining the small isolated group of members who are calling for a leadership challenge. In his own words:Nigel has many gifts - he is an outstanding speaker and television personality. He has been elected, by a large majority, for four years. He must be supported by all party members. Should he remain leader indefinitely? Well, that is for the party to decide. At this stage I intend to throw my hat in the ring again in 2014, as I believe the party needs its centre of gravity to be in this country, not in Brussels or Strasbourg. You may forward...


Skeptyk continues the email in post #1. 

It appears from the break in the text and the repetition of "forward this to whomever you please" that it is actually quotes from two separate emails, probably written just after Nigel Farage won the leadership election last November. 

There is no proof whatsoever that TC wrote them in connection with any recent leadership issue, and it's my belief that someone has cobbled extracts together and recirculated them in a pretence of current support for Farage which may not exist. 

If this conclusion is incorrect, Michael Heaver should publish the email in its entirety, with date, title and name of recipient so that we can see it in context and check its authenticity.
The balance of the CLAIMED comment of Tim Congdon, as claimed by Michael Heavers and selectively quoted, as Barbara Booker states, was posted on this blog. CLICK HERE

Since Skeptyk's posting was subsequent to the removal from Michael Heavers' blog it is probable one of the dishonest creatures, posting as the cowardly proven liar Skeptyk, obtained the copy as posted by them on Anthony Butcher's UKIP controlled blog from the posting on this blog by me at CLICK HERE.
For the original of the article above CLICK HERE

Finally it would seem the dishonesty of the spin regarding Tim CONGDON's letter was exposed - UKIP's very crass and very amateur Press & Spin department finally having been embarrassed into publishing BOTH re-statements of Tim Congdon's honourable statement after the corrupt and dishonest leadership election made in support of the newly placed leader.

The TWO letters are claimed to be as follows:
I wonder in view of the fact that this first 'e'mail is claimed to have been sent on 11-May-2011 when it was actually sent by Tim Congdon and is the date genuine as it is seemingly a Forward of an early 'e'Mail with no provenance of source and as the poster has a proven track record for lies, dishonesty, corruption and bringing UKIP into disrepute I would doubt Tim Congdon would wish his name to be associated with such a low life!
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:33 PM
Subject: Fw:


You ask me to support Nigel, following Marta's criticism yesterday. This is what I sent to David Platt yesterday. Yes, the party must support its leader. As I have always said, Nigel Farage has great gifts which are invaluable to the UK Independence Party.

But I will continue to argue that the centre of gravity of UKIP must be in the UK, not in Brussels or Strasbourg. Of course I support Nigel as leader, as we all must do.

All the same, I am not going to retract what I said in the leadership campaign last autumn. fought the leadership election in order to oppose (what I believe to be) the undue concentration of effort on the European Parliament, including the pan-European party proposal. Let us be clear. Both the European Parliament and a pan-European party are structures intended to serve and promote European integration. I am not just opposed to EU integration; I want us out of the EU altogether, as soon as possible - unilaterally, unconditionally, if necessary. I loathe and deplore the betrayal of my country.

So I worry about our MEPs, and their involvement in the European Parliament and the apparent enthusiasm of some of them for such monstrosities as "the pan-European party".

Please, please, forward this to whomever you please. I am again copying this to David Platt, anyway.


I have also redacted the name of the supposed recipient as this too - considering the dishonest track record of the poster is clearly also unreliable and we note again it shows no sign of source or title and thus clearly may be ages old and recycled.

It is unfortunate that UKIP leadership team has so very few individuals of any gravitas or merit that it is hard for them to comment on anything with overly much chance of their being believed!

Sent: Tuesday, 10 May, 2011 19:36:57
Subject: Re:


Nigel has many gifts - he is an outstanding speaker and television personality. He has been elected, by a large majority, for four years. He must be supported by all party members.

Should he remain leader indefinitely? Well, that is for the party to decide. At this stage I intend to throw my hat in the ring again in 2014, as I believe the party needs its centre of gravity to be in this country, not in Brussels or Strasbourg. - & there is so much work to do here in our own country. Somebody must push this line.

You may forward this to whomever you please


UKIP would do well when it eventually sets about cleaning-up the party with a view to making it fit for purpose and trustworthy to remember the admonishment of Sir Walter Scott in his poem of 1808 'Marmion' where in he wrote of the Battle of Flodden Field in 1513.

Wherein he stated:

'Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive'

The clear implication being that lies beget lies and there is no value in accepting facts from proven liars - In this case Mick McGough - serial liar and abuser of any member who dares to try to Clean-up UKIP or discuss any view he does not endorse on behalf of his puppet masters.

Posted by: Greg Lance-Watkins
#08 Middle Street, Chepstow, NP16 5ET, Monmouthshire, United Kingdoms.
tel: 01291 - 62 65 62

Thursday, 12 May 2011

12-May-2011 - UKIP's first Support from Prof Tim CONGDON as tampered with!

12-May-2011 - UKIP's first Support from Prof Tim CONGDON as tampered with!


amateur hour became more than apparent within the unprofessional and clearly incompetent UKIP leadership as the aim of a leadership is first to find a competent leader and then build a team of the best and most competent in the Party and those who are loyal to THE PARTY and not themselves and the promotion of the Party performing monkey when the Party clearly and desperately need a competent leader with the ability to team build and put in place vision, strategy, structure, probity, training and clear morality and probity to LEAD forward the aims of THE PARTY.

Finally we have a brief extract from an 'e'Mail, we subsequently discover was requested of him in some desperation which is 'cut' and doctored for publication by an untrustworthy UKIP Leadership toady, to provide the right spin and it clearly damns with feint praise even in this condition.

To view the posting of the attempted rebuttal of Marta Andresen's press release sent privately to her on the morning of Thursday 12-May-2011 and then unprofessionally deliberately leaked by Mr. Amateur Hour - the author!

Also to view the selected phrases posted from Tim Congdon's letter:

Posted by: Greg Lance-Watkins
#08 Middle Street, Chepstow, NP16 5ET, Monmouthshire, United Kingdoms.
tel: 01291 - 62 65 62

Wednesday, 11 May 2011

09-11-May-2011 - Open WAR IN UKIP Silence from Tim CONGDON!

 09-11-May-2011 - Open WAR IN UKIP Silence from Tim CONGDON!


in the light of the withering attack on the patently obvious incompetence of Nigel Farage MEP as the leader of UKIP and the utterly incompetent team he had gathered around him as displayed by the catastrophic failure on virtually every fron in the local elections.

There was a total silence from Prof. Tim Congdon - in declaration of support of either Marta Andreasen's long predicted betrayal and denunciation of UKIP for her own personal interests - nor was there any intervention in support of Nigel Farage MEP who also seemed to be acting in his own personal interests.

To view the first news of Marta Andreasen's public press release:
Monday 09-May-2011 CLICK HERE 

My thoughts were published at the time:

it would seem that in a moment of self interest Marta Andreasen, Nigel Farage's pet project who he cheated and lied to place on UKIP MEP selection list has seen an opportunity for personal gain.

Will we shortly see hired hands march in to do battle wielding super injunctions ;-)

Whether this is an opportunistic move to join the EPP on her part, where she would benefit from membership of a larger group and more resources, where she would immediately be a Vice President as leader of a National Group in the composite as so far the EPP lacks a British flag - this then to raise her profile as a reformer in the EU so as to step across ensuring her election next time with the center right Spanish Group.


This is a piece of delicate gambling where the Lib.Dims. may well be courting her to join their ALDI Group to curry favour with a hint of pretend Scepticism by capturing a UKIP scalp - which would not only enhance their group but also improve their credentials with many a EUroSceptic Tory MP or even voter.


Marta Andreasen has made this move in her own interest alone as with her earlier venal actions and dishonest claims.

Clearly her move in such a public manner is a product not of improving UKIP and its footing but her own as she is reveilled by too many in the party who have seen through her antics and note her untrustworthy, self serving dishonesty.

Some by now may have read her novella which she has used UKIP to exploit and market yet others may well have read the series of Court Cases that have consistently found against her. Some may have noted her series of departures - all too often under a cloud and others may have watched her trapped like a rabbit in headlights in her interview by Tim Sebastian which exposed her fake background and CV!

Already Farage - who is a consumate performer but utterly bereft of Officer Qualities and without leadership skills or judgement - has lost 25% of his MEPs leaving him to his racist, anti Jewish, Xenophobic, violent anti homosexual pro EU membership reformist EFD Group.

It looks as if he could loose at least 3 more if they are not as gonadically challenged as they seem and now Andreasen is clearly making a personal interest power play to position herself.

Let us watch wait and see who blinks first!

Farage has already sent in his Press Office and his puppet chairman - Let Battle Commence:

But I must say I believe the Oxus River was more spectacular and both Sorahb & Rhustum more intriguing :-)


For details of Marta Andreasen's Betrayal & its Prediction CLICK HERE
For more information on Marta Andreasen CLICK HERE
To additionally research use >SEARCH< at the top of the Right Hand Side Bar at:

For the bulk of the background to this denunciation and an article by The BBC
Still total silence from Tim CONGDON!

Then on Wednesday-11-May-2011 Roger Knapman the retired MEP & past leader of UKIP who led the party to some 30,000 members and from 3 to 12 MEPs figures he passed on to Nigel Farage who by din't of dishonesty and corruption was placed as the new leader - promptly alienating and losing the support of MEPs one of which he had lied to and another he lied about - Just as there was a departure from The NEC of fundamentally competent and honest individuals who wanted no part of the corruption that became increasingly apparent.

This led in turn to a collapse in real terms of membership to a figure that at one time was seemingly around 10,000.

Roger Knapman did NOT join in the condemnation of Farage but re-issued a statement he had made when he quit membership of Farage's odious claque in the Pan EU EFD Political Group unwilling to support anti Judaism, racism, violent anti homosexuality and a pro EU membership reformist stance in betrayal of the core principles of UKIP activists and members of patriotic integrity - he also renounced the EU centric self serving and self enriching betrayal of the electorate.

This announcement was a re-affirmation of his principles made AFTER the election so as not to disturb the electorate.

being a retired Leader he approached Nikki Sinclaire or a member of her staff to distribute/publish his statement.

Unfortunately a junior in Sinclaire's office sent the mail out over her contact data for press contact - when I posted this and subsequently it was posted on Junius Blog an EU employee phoned John West, who was known to be in touch with me to ask if he could contact me to request redaction of the personal and irrelevant contact data - this I did and contacted Junius as requested who also promptly removed it. I had some difficulty contacting BDF but eventually (it took a littel longer) they too redacted the error.

This detail can be seen at CLICK HERE

This takes us to Wednesday 11-May-2011 and still no sound from Tim Congdon.
Posted by: Greg Lance-Watkins
#08 Middle Street, Chepstow, NP16 5ET, Monmouthshire, United Kingdoms.
tel: 01291 - 62 65 62